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King_Kong_Cock 6Apr2010 14:14

Pest control
 
I need some help with harassing emails my wife and I have been receiving from someone claiming to be "Jan Bell".
We suspect this person knows us on a personal level, however it all began earlier this year when my wife was contacted on MSN by said person. It seemed suspect to me from the start and my wife continued to chat to this person despite my concerns, this person divulged very personal details about her relationship and her job, which my wife thankfully didn't reciprocate.
Then last month we decided to get rid of this person so we set a trap, this person fell for it and then became very aggressive, to the point where they let their guard down and low and behold divulged a little more than then wanted to.

I've tried the usual tricks to see if "Jan Bells" IP filtered through, however seeing as it was a hotmail account that was never going to happen. I've found several sites that give a generic area from which the account has been registered to, however i'm not sure I can trust the accuracy, especially as it asks for money to find out the persons personal details.

ideally I want to know who this person is, so can anyone help me either break this persons password, or suggest a way to trap them?

Many thanks for you help!

KKC

en_7123 6Apr2010 20:29

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Then last month we decided to get rid of this person so we set a trap, this person fell for it and then became very aggressive, to the point where they let their guard down and low and behold divulged a little more than then wanted to.
Just being curious what was this trap exactly.If you are suspicious about someone why interact with him ??
Just my personal advice As I have been seeing a lot of posts in this Ethical Hacking category.I think usually people in this category are who can help you would be about various hacking technologies ,discuss new exploits and so on.I really don't understand why do people keep posting about hacking password and mailing viruses.By the way each time there is a new story and I find it kind of funny.
Well for you I'll suggest if it's a genuine case just avoid that person.

King_Kong_Cock 7Apr2010 01:38

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Wow thanks, that was as useful as a chocolate fire guard, seriously did you even read a word I said, I don't know if it's a guy, I was speculating, how many guys do you know called Jan, please if you dont have anything constructive to say then dont say anything at all!
We havn't been interacting since he/she became abusive, it was my wife that was engaging in these conversations with "Jan Bell" in the first place. She's learnt her lesson I want to teach whoever this person is a lesson as well, this individual was posing as a complete stranger, then all of a sudden let slip more than he/she probably wanted to, my no. 1 suspect is a guy down in Cornwall, who has been trying to stir trouble for his brother and my wife.
So what I need are constructive realistic solutions instead of " oh well it makes me chuckle every time someone puts a thread in here where it should go here" Good to hear that our stress brings you joy!

If you want to knick pick sunshine, your spelling and punctuation are a disgrace

KKC

en_7123 7Apr2010 09:21

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If you want to knick pick sunshine, your spelling and punctuation are a disgrace
Well in that case so is your name.

BTW I was just trying to cut your pain short .But I'll just help you because I think you seem genuine.But before that you need to be more specific
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how many guys do you know called Jan
How do you know for sure he's not given you a fake name.
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Then last month we decided to get rid of this person so we set a trap,
What trap did you exactly set.Could you care to mention.
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I've tried the usual tricks to see if "Jan Bells" IP filtered through
Yeah ?? what usual tricks did you try ??
You want help post his IP address which might not help if he is using anonymous proxy servers.
You would not get the IP if your wife chat with him using some chat service because that is not a direct link between the two computers.
This is how you take out the IP from the header on hotmail:
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en_7123 7Apr2010 09:35

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If you want to knick pick sunshine, your spelling and punctuation are a disgrace
Well in that case so is your name.

BTW I was just trying to cut your pain short .But I'll just help you because I think you seem genuine.But before that you need to be more specific
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how many guys do you know called Jan
How do you know for sure he's not given you a fake name.
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Then last month we decided to get rid of this person so we set a trap,
What trap did you exactly set.Could you care to mention.
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I've tried the usual tricks to see if "Jan Bells" IP filtered through
Yeah ?? what usual tricks did you try ??
You want help post his IP address which might not help if he is using anonymous proxy servers.
You would not get the IP if your wife chat with him using some chat service because that is not a direct link between the two computers.
This is how you take out the IP from the header on hotmail:
1.Login
2.Go to Inbox

3.Under the column that says "Sort by", find the email that you want to track and right-click on it. You should get a menu in this select the last optionwhich is view message source.

4. If you find a header with originating IP: followed by an IP address, that is the sender's IP address
5.If that doesn't work, look for received : from followed by IP address within square brackets[].

So find the IP in this way and post it over here and please oh please stop checking my punctuation unless you are an english teacher my friend and put your time to some productive use which if you would have you could have helped yourself instead of asking others.
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I want to teach whoever this person is a lesson as well, this individual was posing as a complete stranger, then all of a sudden let slip more than he/she probably wanted to, my no. 1 suspect is a guy down in Cornwall, who has been trying to stir trouble for his brother and my wife.
If you are not much of a technical guy don't give it a sweat if the matter is to serious report it to law enforcement agencies don't be too dumb to fall in trap yourself.
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So what I need are constructive realistic solutions instead of " oh well it makes me chuckle every time someone puts a thread in here where it should go here" Good to hear that our stress brings you joy!
Don't try to have an inflated ego my friend when you are asking for help in the first place.I didn't get any joy of your story so chuck your ego and try to understand it's people like you who end up buying fake software to hack e-mail and so on this is all scam that's all I wanted to tell you.But anyways as I said earlier It's a free country so suit your heart.

King_Kong_Cock 7Apr2010 16:21

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Thanks for the concern over my pain, however I just want to deliver it back on this individual 10 fold.

I imagnie the name "Jan Bell" is 100% false.
I have no clear idea who this person could be, I have suspects (those I believe would be this malicious) to pose as Jan Bell and engage in detailed conversations with my wife.
I believe it was their intent to get a piece of information from my wife, which she would not divulge, as simply every conversation my wife had with this Jan Bell was always digressed to filth. I know there are some disturbed people out there, however it just didn't seem right from the start.
Like I said they gave away too much, meaning that they divulged details about my wife and I that a complete stranger would not know.
I wont go into details of the trap, only that it was designed to generate an excuse to get rid of Jan Bell. Who ever this person is, took the bait!

I have two emails from this person, one contains explicit pictures which i believe they may have acquired from the net, or even they own archives, as they are using a Hotmail account, their original IP will not show in the email headers (sorry tried that one) the only IP that appears is the IP of Hotmail based in Newyork!

I did some digging on the email account itself, and found out the name has existed since 1995, however was recently reactivated in October 2009, the name registered is Jan Bell, the address/area is Redmond, WA. I dont know anyone in the US from that area, esepcially someone who knew a little too much about us.

Any suggestions?

en_7123 7Apr2010 20:44

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I have two emails from this person, one contains explicit pictures which i believe they may have acquired from the net, or even they own archives, as they are using a Hotmail account, their original IP will not show in the email headers (sorry tried that one) the only IP that appears is the IP of Hotmail based in Newyork!
Open the message source take a snapshot of that page and paste it on the forum.I doubt if the Source Ip is not there because it is present in hotmail usually.

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I wont go into details of the trap, only that it was designed to generate an excuse to get rid of Jan Bell. Who ever this person is, took the bait!
Well if you don't want to divulge much it's difficult to know the complete case and help.
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I did some digging on the email account itself, and found out the name has existed since 1995, however was recently reactivated in October 2009, the name registered is Jan Bell, the address/area is Redmond, WA. I dont know anyone in the US from that area, especially someone who knew a little too much about us.
Yeah where exactly did you do this digging let us know and please don't say you don't want o give details because I can't guess what is the e-mail id of this person ?

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Thanks for the concern over my pain, however I just want to deliver it back on this individual 10 fold.
That's a scary attitude though you can't do much unless you are suspecting some one you know who's doing this and still you can't be 100 % sure about it.

King_Kong_Cock 8Apr2010 12:15

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God you are really annoying! Seriously do you act like this all the time or just on forums?

You dont need to know the details of the trap, it's completely irrelevant! Your not going to be able to coach me into decoding who this person is, because they dont want to be found hence why they have used a bogus email account.

I'm not going to paste the email account on here as knowing my luck you'll warn said individual, to be honest I dont particularly trust you, call it a hunch!

As for finding details of the hotmail account, I used Google, typed in questions like....how long has classified@hotmail.com been active? Where is it registered, lo and behold you have to do some digging! Can I ask what you do for a living?

en_7123 8Apr2010 19:40

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I'm not going to paste the email account on here as knowing my luck you'll warn said individual, to be honest I dont particularly trust you, call it a hunch!
I can't really follow you .You don't tell me I'm annoying because you yourself sound like a fool..Well I have more things to say but really don't want to mess the decorum of this forum.

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Can I ask what you do for a living?
First it's none of your business though if you must know I try and avoid asking stupid questions on forums.Anyways I can't really help you without any details well as far as I can make out from everything you post in this thread you just seem like a wannabe hacker.Best of luck my friend cock :D:D

King_Kong_Cock 8Apr2010 20:14

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Your psycho-analysing me? I dont want to be a hacker, never had an ambition to be a hacker, nor will I ever!
I want to track annoying individual much like yourself so I can ensure they are brought to just, as the Police or any law enforcement agency are not going to waste time or manpower on a pathetic individual who has caused my wife grief!

If you can justify how knowing the intimate details other than for your personal gratification, I will gladly tell you, to be honest they are like I said irrelevant on how I can achieve my aim of finding out who this fool is!

I've already tried what you've suggested and because they are using a hotmail account it hasn't registered the IP inwhich it has been accessed and the emails sent from. I know very little about computers, however even I know that email accounts such as hotmail operate in non convential ways!

So here follows my freudian analysis of you....

All you ever do is nit pick at irrelevant details, i've looked at other posts you've made on various topics across this forum and it follows the same pattern! You act as though your a adminstrator..."this should not be here it should be in this topic, blah blah" the advice you provide is in accurate and you get in a strop because it's inaccurate, so if anyone has an ego it's you!
The only thing you have achieved is to agitate me, bore me, basically built a very negative image of yourself, I can picture you as a student still in full time education with really bad spelling, punctuation and grammar! Or the other end of the spectrum is a middle aged man still living with his mother!

So rant over! So i'd appreciate that you disappear and allow a others to give me some advice on how I can locate this individual, as it is clear it is not you! You are wasting my time...

KKC


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