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indiansword 25Feb2009 19:01

Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 

Introduction



This article will basically introduce you to the funniest yet useful bug in Microsoft systems. Do at your own risk as neither Go4Expert nor the author of the article are responsible for anything legal related to it

Background



I work as a manager in HP for north american customers, so i have been hanging around in this field since a long time. So just by a little research i managed to find the bug!

Lets start



PART 1

1. Go to ebay.com
2. Search for "Microsoft Products". (Suppose you chose a "gaming keyboard")
3. Select any product below $150, and tell the seller that "I am ready to buy, but just to make sure that I am getting the right thing, i want to know the PID number of the product".
4. Seller will mail you PID number.

Part 2

1. Call up microsoft customer service OR have a chat with their representative
2. I dont have the number byhearted so goto support.microsoft.com and find that out
3. Tell them that " I own this (the same) Gaming Keyboard, its broken, some of the keys are not working, I have done all the troubleshooting."
4. VOILA!, they will say that "Its ok, sir, we will send your another!"
5. YOUR DONE!!


How it works?

When they send you another keyboard, they would NOT ask you to return the existing broken keyboard, because the SHIPPING will cost them more than the price of the keyboard. So thats what is the loophole

Why till $150?

As i mentioned above, if the replacement product costs more than $150, then they will ask you to return the existing broken product at the time of delivery, which apperantly we dont have :D.

Can I get caught?

NO!. Its done through complete legal way, I have already ordered 5 of them and have received 3 at my friend's place in US. I am expecting them to drop 1 of them at my place (india), within couple of days. :pleased:

ENJOYIN EXPLOITIN THE LOOPHOLES!

shabbir 25Feb2009 19:13

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Quote:

NO!. Its done through complete legal way, I have already ordered 5 of them and have received 3 at my friend's place in US. I am expecting them to drop 1 of them at my place (india), within couple of days.
I really doubt on this.

indiansword 25Feb2009 19:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shabbir (Post 43469)
I really doubt on this.


i dont coz i have got the CONFIRMATION MAIL, m in the office right now so dont have access to personal emails, will paste the confirmation text later, i said that will take 2 more days, coz they have confirmed that they are shipping it to india, so logically it should be around 7-8 working days :)

shabbir 25Feb2009 20:11

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But you are stealing the PID from a person and so it would be anyway a law breaker and so you are bound to be caught

indiansword 25Feb2009 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shabbir (Post 43474)
But you are stealing the PID from a person and so it would be anyway a law breaker and so you are bound to be caught

1. the original owner doesnt have ANY idea about it. in microsoft call center, it works in such a way that even if u call for the same product, on every call it will create a NEW PROFILE. i dont think every one would understand the tools on which call centers work.

2. original owner is not in picture... the personal who delivers it to your address has no concernes with it...

3. its microsoft's policy, so no one can deny that

4. still to answer your question, you can say that
"I had the broken product, i threw i out"
"I purchased it when i was in US"
(i m damn sure, we wudnt be in position to answer any one)

xpi0t0s 25Feb2009 20:57

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Yay, way to get sacked when people find out. Operation Planner for 3 Australia, eh? And "I work as a manager in HP for north american customers". That's going to narrow down who you are fairly accurately.

This is theft, plain and simple. Actually depriving people of actual physical products that cost actual money to make. And since you didn't buy these products this makes you a liar as well.

This has absolutely nothing to do with ETHICAL hacking (FFS, some people really need to look up the word ETHICAL in a dictionary before being allowed to post bere) and IMHO this article and thread should be deleted as it gives go4Expert a bad name.

And yes, you can get caught. What happens when someone whose PID you've nicked faces this problem for real and asks for a replacement? They contact Microsoft, who say I see you've already done this once sir, followed by no I haven't and I want my replacement oh and by the way here's my proof of purchase, followed by OK let's see who was daft enough to give us their address for sending your replacement keyboard to, followed by a quick cross reference, followed by oh look, five keyboards and counting, this person is either very unlucky or a crook. And I bet HP are a Microsoft partner and you'll be in it up to your neck, so if they don't call the cops out (who probably couldn't be arsed) they'll have a word with the HP CEO and you'll be out on your ear.

Or maybe what if they just cross reference one address against the number of failures and compare that with the average failures/address, without being prompted by a duplicate request for a broken product?

So I hope your five $100 keyboards are of some comfort when you find yourself out of a job and unable to get another one in IT. Or in the slammer.

indiansword 25Feb2009 21:02

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xpi0t0s (Post 43486)
Yay, way to get sacked when people find out. Operation Planner for 3 Australia, eh? And "I work as a manager in HP for north american customers". That's going to narrow down who you are fairly accurately.

This is theft, plain and simple. Actually depriving people of actual physical products that cost actual money to make. And since you didn't buy these products this makes you a liar as well.

This has absolutely nothing to do with ETHICAL hacking (FFS, some people really need to look up the word ETHICAL in a dictionary before being allowed to post bere) and IMHO this article and thread should be deleted as it gives go4Expert a bad name.

And yes, you can get caught. What happens when someone whose PID you've nicked faces this problem for real and asks for a replacement? They contact Microsoft, who say I see you've already done this once sir, followed by no I haven't and I want my replacement oh and by the way here's my proof of purchase, followed by OK let's see who was daft enough to give us their address for sending your replacement keyboard to, followed by a quick cross reference, followed by oh look, five keyboards and counting, this person is either very unlucky or a crook. And I bet HP are a Microsoft partner and you'll be in it up to your neck, so if they don't call the cops out (who probably couldn't be arsed) they'll have a word with the HP CEO and you'll be out on your ear.

Or maybe what if they just cross reference one address against the number of failures and compare that with the average failures/address, without being prompted by a duplicate request for a broken product?

So I hope your five $100 keyboards are of some comfort when you find yourself out of a job and unable to get another one in IT. Or in the slammer.

if actual owner's PID is facing problem they call up and microsoft send them another. Thats y i said that you wudnt understand the tool that they work on

U can once, you profile is created, data saved for that particular call.
Another call, another profile, new replacement! THATS THE BUG!

i cud have added a disclaimer that
- educational purpose-
but its not :crazy:


and ya
Code:

Yay, way to get sacked when people find out. Operation Planner for 3 Australia, eh? And "I work as a manager in HP for north american customers". That's going to narrow down who you are fairly accurately.
what u mean by that?
i was with 3 earlier, now with hp since coupel of months.

hanleyhansen 26Feb2009 05:53

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I agree with xpi0t0s this has to be illegal because your making your self pass as the legitimate owner of the product which is lying and deceit and impersonation. Also by saying you owned one and lost it or broke it your claiming false ownership for personal benefit and to gain a profit for something you don't have or own which is illegal.

indiansword 26Feb2009 15:10

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Code:

**********************************
Please keep this e-mail for your records.
**********************************

Microsoft has received your order, and it is being processed.

Order Date: 02/23/2009

Ship-To:
XXXXX XXXXXXX
XXXX XXX XXXXXX Rd.
XXXXXXX, VA XXXXX
United States

Following is a list of the items in your order:

Part Number: 9VV-00001
Product Name: Habu Gaming Mouse Win USB Port English NA Hdwr CD
Qty: 1
Unit Price: 0.00
Item Total: 0.00

Subtotal: 0.00
Shipping: 0.00
Tax: 0.00
Total: 0.00 USD
(USD = US Dollar)

**********************************
Do not reply to this e-mail. This message was sent to you using an automated system. This e-mail alias is not monitored for replies. If you need help, please contact us through one of the methods available at http://support.microsoft.com/default.asp...ntactfind.
**********************************

Thank you,
Microsoft

i have got the same one for india as well ;)

indiansword 28Feb2009 00:51

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 
i was expecting some reply after posting that confirmation mail. :)

hanleyhansen 2Mar2009 02:20

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 
For all we know, you could of made that email your self but hey if you got it to work and you fooled Microsoft, congratulations!

indiansword 2Mar2009 04:26

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thanks buddy... and look at the positive side, that email aint made up :P

Bhullarz 3Mar2009 06:52

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What is going on here? Why are you all discussing Legal or Illegal thing here ? The GUY had a trick, he just shared it with all of members, as others share their ideas to code trojan, disabling Anti-Viruses.

It all upon you. If you like the trick, use it. Otherwise Don't use it.

We have other issues to discuss here like Call Center Software, Working of eBay, Microsoft Policies. Talk about these. I think these are more informative topics than the thing going on here.

xpi0t0s 3Mar2009 15:11

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 
The site is Go4Expert, not Go4Crook. So when something illegal (like theft, which is what this is) is being discussed, it should be pointed out that it's illegal. Feel free to nick whatever you like off whomever you like, if you're comfortable with (a) theft and (b) jail.

The problem Go4Expert has is that in this litigious society and culture of "it wasn't my fault he made me do it", anyone who successfully argues to a lawyer that they got the idea off this site opens shabbir up to legal action and who knows where that might lead. Personally I don't give a hoot about IS's lack of morals, but I don't think shabbir should be shot because of that.

indiansword 3Mar2009 16:52

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lack of morals :( :S

Bhullarz 3Mar2009 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpi0t0s (Post 43771)
The site is Go4Expert, not Go4Crook. So when something illegal (like theft, which is what this is) is being discussed, it should be pointed out that it's illegal. Feel free to nick whatever you like off whomever you like, if you're comfortable with (a) theft and (b) jail.

The problem Go4Expert has is that in this litigious society and culture of "it wasn't my fault he made me do it", anyone who successfully argues to a lawyer that they got the idea off this site opens shabbir up to legal action and who knows where that might lead. Personally I don't give a hoot about IS's lack of morals, but I don't think shabbir should be shot because of that.

I fully agree with you that this site is for programmers/learners. But this site is also providing CODES which can harm other's computers. That thing can not be legal too, if you are teaching someone that how to harm others. but that is also available here. then this thing should be fine here too. Treat such posts as same.

Moreover, this section is for learning.
Learn the thing that If you got a chance to work on some BPO software, don't make such mistakes as done in this case.
Learn the thing that how people can find the way to crack into your system, like this guy found out the way.
Explore the thing that how to avoid such frauds.

Personally, I don't like this way as it is fraud. and we should discourage such posts in future. But this article teaches a lot of things. Gives us a new point of view of non-technical person. so it is nice.

I just want you all people to talk about other things of the post instead of just concentrating on one aspect of the article.

xpi0t0s 3Mar2009 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhullarz (Post 43814)
and we should discourage such posts in future

Doesn't that contradict the rest of your post?

Bhullarz 4Mar2009 06:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xpi0t0s (Post 43815)
Doesn't that contradict the rest of your post?

Nopes. I am not in favor of posting such articles, which teaches that how to harm others. But here all this is done as for Education Purposes. so what can be done? So, we should utilize whatever we have whether BAD or GOOD.
Like this article is also approved by ADMIN. If it was legal, it shouldn't be approved at all. But it was approved. ADMIN must be having some plans for such kind of articles.

shabbir 4Mar2009 09:08

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xpi0t0s (Post 43771)
The problem Go4Expert has is that in this litigious society and culture of "it wasn't my fault he made me do it", anyone who successfully argues to a lawyer that they got the idea off this site opens shabbir up to legal action and who knows where that might lead. Personally I don't give a hoot about IS's lack of morals, but I don't think shabbir should be shot because of that.

Read the last line on every page and that should keep me safe. Now if this is Ethical or not is the question. I guess having such things helps people on ebay to not give such ids to other people and so I have not removed it till now.

shabbir 4Mar2009 09:10

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Added the following as well to the article.

Do at your own risk as neither Go4Expert nor the author of the article are responsible for anything legal related to it

shabbir 4Mar2009 09:56

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Nominate this article for Article of the month for February 2009

indiansword 4Mar2009 18:35

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the only mistake i did while writing this article was
i forgot to add
"for educational purposes" , so pardon me for that,

---------------------
@ shabbir,
i like the footer of the site :P

CircuitX 6Mar2009 02:25

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 
This is wrong in my opinion...

And its theft...

Its not your PID...

indiansword 9Mar2009 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CircuitX (Post 43998)
This is wrong in my opinion...

And its theft...

Its not your PID...

show me the way to get microsoft things for free then :P

xpi0t0s 9Mar2009 20:36

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Why do you think you should be entitled to get Microsoft things for free?
If they're that great why not be honest like the rest of us and pay for them?

indiansword 10Mar2009 00:31

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arent we going on wrong paths buddies?

it was just a tut. and we started discussing ethical and unethical thing :)

so forget that, it was just a tut. u may use it if u want

indiansword 2Jul2009 09:54

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ROFL! They speakers i ordered to test this trick, i received it yesterday.

mayjune 8Jul2009 01:15

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no doubt the idea is really great, the context isn't right i must agree.
but what is to learn is how to see loopholes when others see none, well thats what hacking is, be it ethical or not. To see it from a totally different point of view....

Tell me indiansword, how did it occur to you? you thought of it or you got to know about this exploit?

ps - that "white hat player" tag doesn't really go with this post you know, as a white hat, you would have reported it to microsoft, its more of a grey hat i think ;)

indiansword 8Jul2009 02:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mayjune (Post 51708)
no doubt the idea is really great, the context isn't right i must agree.
but what is to learn is how to see loopholes when others see none, well thats what hacking is, be it ethical or not. To see it from a totally different point of view....

Tell me indiansword, how did it occur to you? you thought of it or you got to know about this exploit?

ps - that "white hat player" tag doesn't really go with this post you know, as a white hat, you would have reported it to microsoft, its more of a grey hat i think ;)

I myself am a manager for the call center of HP technical support, providing tech support to north american customers. So i know few loop holes in call center programs.

As u said i should have reported this to microsoft, but to be honest with you mate, I can guarantee they wouldn't fix this issue unless someone really makes a big scam out of it. :)

mayjune 8Jul2009 03:53

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Quote:

As u said i should have reported this to microsoft, but to be honest with you mate, I can guarantee they wouldn't fix this issue unless someone really makes a big scam out of it.
looks like you are gonna pull the scam to get there attention and get away with it huh? lol ;)

personally speaking, wether they fix it or not, let them decide, as a white hacker, you should report. Let them make the mistake not you...

indiansword 8Jul2009 04:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mayjune (Post 51715)
looks like you are gonna pull the scam to get there attention and get away with it huh? lol ;)

personally speaking, wether they fix it or not, let them decide, as a white hacker, you should report. Let them make the mistake not you...


Nah. I am not going to pull any scam, if i wanted that i would have done it a long time ago. Anyway. Now its not abou white hat or black hat, its just about responsiveness. Istead of feeling refused because of their un-responsiveness, i'd rather prefer to share it with friends. Anyway it was just an information peice of article. I tested it and it works. So its upto people want to use it or just pass it.

mayjune 8Jul2009 04:26

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Quote:

As u said i should have reported this to microsoft, but to be honest with you mate, I can guarantee they wouldn't fix this issue unless someone really makes a big scam out of it.
looks like you are gonna pull the scam to get there attention and get away with it huh? lol ;)

udefined 12Jul2009 17:39

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good fing friend and as i m new to this forums i dunno know much bout these forums but i can help you all in hacking

osiris 1.0 5May2010 16:35

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shabbir (Post 43474)
But you are stealing the PID from a person and so it would be anyway a law breaker and so you are bound to be caught

14 monthz later, i still dont trust this..

jeanlee411 14May2010 05:14

Re: Get Any Microsoft Products for FREE!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xpi0t0s (Post 43486)
Yay, way to get sacked when people find out. Operation Planner for 3 Australia, eh? And "I work as a manager in HP for north american customers". That's going to narrow down who you are fairly accurately.

This is theft, plain and simple. Actually depriving people of actual physical products that cost actual money to make. And since you didn't buy these products this makes you a liar as well.

This has absolutely nothing to do with ETHICAL hacking (FFS, some people really need to look up the word ETHICAL in a dictionary before being allowed to post bere) and IMHO this article and thread should be deleted as it gives go4Expert a bad name.

And yes, you can get caught. What happens when someone whose PID you've nicked faces this problem for real and asks for a replacement? They contact Microsoft, who say I see you've already done this once sir, followed by no I haven't and I want my replacement oh and by the way here's my proof of purchase, followed by OK let's see who was daft enough to give us their address for sending your replacement keyboard to, followed by a quick cross reference, followed by oh look, five keyboards and counting, this person is either very unlucky or a crook. And I bet HP are a Microsoft partner and you'll be in it up to your neck, so if they don't call the cops out (who probably couldn't be arsed) they'll have a word with the HP CEO and you'll be out on your ear.

Or maybe what if they just cross reference one address against the number of failures and compare that with the average failures/address, without being prompted by a duplicate request for a broken product?

So I hope your five $100 keyboards are of some comfort when you find yourself out of a job and unable to get another one in IT. Or in the slammer.

I agree with xpi0t0s this has to be illegal because your making your self pass as the legitimate owner of the product which is lying and deceit and impersonation. Also by saying you owned one and lost it or broke it your claiming false ownership for personal benefit and to gain a profit for something you don't have or own which is illegal.

Arguntom 28May2010 03:22

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Wow this is kinda useful but then again unlawful. I would have to think about using that method of gaining free items. Nobody here has said that your method is not legit so i have no doubts that it doesnt work but, it is still unlawful and technically unethical.

hemal08ce094 30Dec2010 14:17

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it is complete unethical man!!!!!
if we caught then our carrier had finished man!!!!!!!so i am not going to try this one!!!!

xray2403 3Sep2012 11:42

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where can i find the pid number ?

I've got this message resend from the seller :


You're going to have to help me in finding it...Is it one of the numbers on the base of the mouse? I presume you are referring to the product ID. Which number in particular are you interested in? I have FCC ID: C3K1352...That the one? Let me know. Cheers


Please help me!

xray2403 11May2013 04:07

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Hello,

You wrote this:

I work as a manager in HP for north american customers, so i have been hanging around in this field since a long time. So just by a little research i managed to find the bug!

Does it mean that for HP products this "tric" also could work ?

xray2403


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