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What is hacking?

Discussion in 'Ethical hacking' started by aspguy, May 12, 2009.

  1. aspguy

    aspguy New Member

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    There are many mixed opinion about what is hacking and what is Ethical Hacking and so lets see the view point of each of us as to what we think is

    What is hacking?

    According to me

    Hacking is unauthorized access and use of resources.
     
  2. SaswatPadhi

    SaswatPadhi ~ Б0ЯИ Τ0 С0δЭ ~

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    When it comes to "authorization", we should use the word cracking and not hacking. Hackers just mess with things, not just "use" them.

    So, I would like to keep it short : "Hacking is messing with resources."
     
  3. shabbir

    shabbir Administrator Staff Member

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    I would define it as backdoor access to resources. :D
     
  4. SpOonWiZaRd

    SpOonWiZaRd Know what you can do.

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    Well I gained access numerous times by means of hacking into a computer and then gained access to files on the computer, I can then even shut it down and do as I please all from the command prompt without getting any username or password... I hacked into it by means of exploiting windows. I see hacking as breaking into a computer and gaining access to it as if you are sitting infront of the computer yourself with admin rights and you never needed any username/password combination.
     
  5. mayjune

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    hacking is to see something in a different way from the ordinary....
    for example
    we see fork as something to eat with
    a hacker wiould see it as a metal which conducts electricity,
    it is something i can give pokey designs with...
    etc etc...
     
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    Hacking - Viewing / replacing / editing / deleting / spreading files, pictres, documents etc. which we arent supposed to.

    Ethical Hacking - Doing all of the above IF requested.

    Cracking 2 types:-
    1. Hash, Email ID's Cracking:- Brutefoceing Hashes such as MD5 encryption. Executive bruteforcing ditionary attacks on different Email addresses.

    2. Getting access to full version of programs, softwares without purchasing the licensed key.
     
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    hmmm. . .i never thought hacking can be ethical too. . .oh well
     
  8. xpi0t0s

    xpi0t0s Mentor

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    Depends on who you speak to. There are various types of hacking that should be referred to with the correct terms, but the media misuse terms because they don't understand them and this muddies the water.

    I prefer the definition at http://catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
    A hacker is an expert, a geek, a good guy, can be a good engineer (but good engineering often means following documented protocols and a hacker often doesn't have the time or inclination for pointless protocols that are usually invented by managers who have no engineering skills to maintain the illusion that they do something useful).
    A cracker is what the media means when they use the word hacker. Script kiddies are a subset of crackers - while crackers may have some skills, script kiddies just run scripts that other people have worked out, so script kiddies have no skills, hence the name.
    Cracker is also a racist term used to refer to white people by black people and the level of offence intended by the word cracker is the same as the offence usually taken when someone uses the word nigger. This could be why the media doesn't use it.

    There are other terms which clarify the use of the word. White hat hackers are good guys; black hat hackers are not and the parallel with white and black magic is I think intentional. Ethical hacking is quite clear to anyone who understands the word "ethical" but many people who post to go4e's EH forum are not asking about ethical hacking but about inethical cracking (i want my g/f's hotmail password, for example).

    There is also a job title Ethical Hacker which means someone who is employed to break into systems with full permission to do so - which sounds like a contradiction but normally you would be given passwords to access a system; an ethical hacker is permitted to access a password protected system but not given the password. Ethical Hackers are used to test security systems legally and document their methods for gaining entry so that the security systems can be improved.

    Going by ESR's definitions a hacker is ethical by definition so the word ethical is redundant, and personally I think all threads in the EH forum about getting passwords, stealing from Microsoft and so on should be shut down as nothing to do with EH. Leaving these threads open sends the message that go4e approves of such things.
     
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    hacking is today's world is considered a good thing, that is why there are certifications leading to that. It is very nicely called "Certified Ethical Hacker".
     
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    I prefered Hacking's defination as said by Ankit Fadia :)
     
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    and what is that naimish?
     
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    "...by using their knowledge in a constructive manner they help organizations to secure
    documents and company secrets, help the government to protect national documents of
    strategic importance..." - Ankit Fadia

    Source
     
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    Thanks naimish
     
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    Nice one, I agree with Ankit Fadia about the definaiton he has gave for Hackers.
     
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    No offense but hes a gay :)
     
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    Ankit Fada Is a very smart person Hacking comes from millions of terms buts it the mere fact of how you goa bout it

    For example let's pick out some ppl in this forum

    1. indiansword why him? he found a xss in google
    2.spoowndizard ive known him since 2007 until my account got banned a.k.a XXxximmortalxxXX

    No lets compare them indiansword goes and finds web based application to exploits it spoonwizard as stated gains access to cpu systems

    Now they both have knowledge of what to do but its what they do with it. If they want to be a gay Black-Hat and destroy the shit like a bunch of faggits well to me there called hacker faggits.

    Or a grey-hat maybe they have some meaning to do it perhaps try to gain information against the user in secret and try not to alert them about there cpu being watched over i call that james bond lol

    or they can be a white-hat and tell the person/ people's about whats going on

    Millions of people all across the world take hacking into different perspectives its what you do with it.

    After 4 years of my life i realized simple web hacking is bullshit it is by far the worst and most ignorant thing ever thought of. My new journey relies on Reverse Coding where we edit .exe and set breakpoints and trace through code on ollydbg or wargames or server security/hacking

    Just by a guess about 64% of all the malicious users on the internet are script kiddies or faggit hackers.


    Just here is a lesson if you want to actually learn something do it by computer hacking or some sort not web based now you can still hack into a system through web hacking but its how you do it :)
     
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    In most cases, people regard "hacking" as bad action. Really, the hacker is able to encroach others without the promise. But anything has two sides, sometimes, we need to hack ourselves' computer if we have forgotten the login passwords
     

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