well when it's an online class and emails get unanswered as well as discussion on the forum. and no one else in the class has any idea, i don't think it's me goofing around, but thanks. there are no prereqs either. this is our 4th program ever. first being hello world. yeah. and filing a complaint isn't really going to help at this point in the semester. i don't need the answer, but maybe a few pointers.