hay if you really want a bad boy laptop look into the Asus Republic of Gamers. I've got to tell you it is FAST!!!!!! It also has some really brilliant fixes. for example they mounted 2 fans right on the rear of the deck ( not under it ) there are no heat issues when you kick back and set up on you're lap. the 8 processors and the 6 gigs of ram just shred threw games like nothing. For example I was at a lan party we had about 7 of us there. I was serving and for some strange reason I was lagging a little ( verry little) jumped back to my home screen and I was running another processor heavy game in the back ground. any ways just take a peak at it before you make any final decisions they are worth a look. Ps: the 3d vid card is insane with the 60 in LG 3d tv. movies are perfect and games get a killer boost to.