ok i have read a few things on how it is done and i understand or at least i think i understand what i am doing. i have tried john the ripper, and i followed all the steps in about 3 step by step guides two video guides and i read a little info thing on how it works. but still it is all in vain. i know there must be someone here that knows how it is done and i would be completely filled with glee if you could maybe give me a step by step that may help me get going. thank you.