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Ghost (secretly) copy contents of usb?

Discussion in 'Ethical hacking' started by wizehawk, Feb 3, 2009.

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  1. wizehawk

    wizehawk New Member

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    Everyday our teacher comes into our lecture hall and connects his/her flash drive to a desktop computer (windows xp) that has been set up with a projector.

    I can gain admin access temporarily to the computer each day (for 2-3 minutes) after the teacher leaves.

    I know the teacher has future class quizes and all on the ppt, is there a way that i can set up a program/script/whatever so that anytime they insert their flash drive, it copies the entire contents of the drive (invisibly) and stores it in a hidden location, so that i can later plug in my flash drive and just copy that folder.

    thanks
     
  2. xpi0t0s

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    And what is your question about _ethical_ hacking?
     
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    what clasifies as "ethical"?
    people can make up a sob story to justify their reasoning and get it answered, i could do the same but im not going to hide my incentive, my incentive is to copy the contents of a flash drive, nothing to hide, no bs about it
     
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    Ethical hacking is where you have permission to do what you want to do. It has nothing to do with making up a sob story, inethical hacking is inethical regardless of the motivation.
     
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    "ethical" is a very loose term.... so many products are created with "ethical intents" but manufacturers and the general public will know that certain substances are used to other "unethical" purposes
    IE: blunt wraps are created for "tobacco" but are used for weed...

    so what i ask is something that could help me in my situation, if you reply to me with a suggested solution, it makes no difference to you whether or not i use the software/solution for "unethical purposes" because you are in no way responsible for my use of the solution/software.

    again "ethical" is a very loose term, that can be defined by a personal opinion
     
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    "ethical" is a very loose term.... so many products are created with "ethical intents" but manufacturers and the general public will know that certain substances are used to other "unethical" purposes
    IE: blunt wraps are created for "tobacco" but are used for weed...

    so what i ask is something that could help me in my situation, if you reply to me with a suggested solution, it makes no difference to you whether or not i use the software/solution for "unethical purposes" because you are in no way responsible for my use of the solution/software.

    again "ethical" is a very loose term, that can be defined by a personal opinion
     
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    i do have explicit permission by the teacher to access the computer, as i am allowed to access the computer so that i can copy the current powerpoints of the day, that would classify as 'ethical access' to the computer
     
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    take a look at this thread "http://www.go4expert.com/showthread.php?t=12715"
    all i have to do is say "i want to do the same thing as the thread poster, but i would like to do it with a simple program that doesnt give any sort of dialog boxes (for convenience) and copies it to a predifined location of my choice (for convenience)"

    "i constantly am transferring files between my work and office, i would like to know if there is a way to automatically sync the files on my usb drive with my flash drive with my office computer's "my documents" folder with the files on my usb drive, and then when i go home, have it automatically dump the contents of my usb drive on to "my documents" on my home computer. I am sure there this is possibe, but i have a special condition in which my office computer i do not have admistrative access and have rather limited user access"

    see thats ethical :)
     
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    What is it you hope to gain by copying the stick?
    If you want to copy the entire USB stick why don't you just ask?

    The answer might be yes, but the response to copying the stick without permission might be a revokation of your privileges, and you'd feel a right twit if you got thrown off the computer for secretly copying something you could have copied freely anyway.

    > i do have explicit permission by the teacher to access the computer, as i am allowed to access the computer so that i can copy the current powerpoints of the day, that would classify as 'ethical access' to the computer

    Permission to access the computer doesn't translate to permission to access her USB stick. There may be personal stuff on that stick as well as the powerpoints. How would you feel if your private data was accessed without your permission?

    > "ethical" is a very loose term

    No it's not. You either have permission or you don't, there is no middle ground. You don't, therefore what you want to do is not ethical.
     
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    > see thats ethical

    No it's not, because you still want to circumvent the fact that you don't have administrative access on the office computer. It requires administrative access to run a program (service) that does stuff like that automatically.
    And even if you tweak the description further to make it ethical, the cat's out of the bag with your opening question so no matter how you rephrase it it's still an inethical question.

    Also, don't you think she might get suspicious when she sticks her USB drive in and the light on it starts going mental even though she's doing nothing?
     
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    So why don't you just ask? If she knows you're smart and ahead of the rest of the class, and that you're not going to start asking questions about slideshow x+n during the class on slideshow x, she may well let you have the lot straight away.
     
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    the flashing light is not a big issue because:
    a. as soon as the teacher plugs in the flash drive into the computer, they are usually copying the powerpoints to the desktop
    b. most of the teachers are very computer illiterate, hell they will even ask for my help in class if something goes wrong.

    i have found some automatic usb copy/sync programs online, but the only thing now is to hide traces of the program completely
    a. remove the program from the add/remove program list
    b. change the name of the process that it runs under
    c. manipulate its registry entries to make it hidden
     
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    So for the third time (at least), why don't you just ask? The answer could well be yes, in which case you don't have to do it secretly.
     
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    because in the end, i am trying to get soft-copies of quizes that we have taken in the past (ill honestly say for better self assesment) or if im lucky have softcopies of future-quizes that they have written, but havent administered yet
     
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    And is there any reason you think the teacher might say no?
     
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    because they frequently repeat questions from quizes on final exams, people write down the quizes, or use voice recorders to record the quiz, i was just looking for an easier digital way to go about it

    and even though they have already written the quiz for tomorrow, it has been given yet, so i were to get a copy of tomorrows quiz, i could go home and look up in the book the correct answers and id be competely prepared for tomorrows quiz
     
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    This is where the un gets added. Thread closed.
     
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