norton ghost good idea! i just want to make sure i remember how to do a ghost copy, you obviously would download the program then you would boot into dos and if im correcyt no usb atached devices will work then you go throught the procedure i cant remember the process but ive done several ghost copys, but i havnt had to do one since i was in school for IT, but anyway i would then move one copy of the hardrive information to another drive a recreated drive then it would be saved but, with a ghost image can you do it on another hardrive and what about a xcopy you think that would work or is it the same thing sorry i need refreshers you dont have to answer this i just would like to know