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Ankit Fadia - An Ethical Hacker is Un-Ethically Hacking My National Citizens

Discussion in 'Ethical hacking Tips' started by Hacking Expert, Dec 17, 2006.

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Do you agree to the truth what Mr. Kalpesh Sharma has specified?

  1. Yes !

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  2. No !

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  3. No Idea !

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  1. Hacking Expert

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    Hot Note: This article is posted by Kalpesh Sharma for Public Interest and National Interest, so that every concerned person can be aware and alert.

    Directly, coming to point I am in touch with you for a matter which is the first part of the protest against Ankit Fadia. I am writing on this forum in current article about truths and facts behind Ankit Fadia who is a self claimed ethical hacker. He has hacked many of my national citizens, media, publishers, even many across the globe. I need your valuable support and co-operation in this matter, so that we can save the citizens of our nation and other nations also. Along with media peoples, publishers, government and non-government sectors as well as inform CBI, CIA and FBI that how this person is misusing every honorable names by false comparisons and attachments with them. And the biggest exclusive and breaking news is that world's biggest encyclopedia wikipedia's two indian administrators are behaving as if they are ankit fadia's relatives or near - dear ones. A very hot comment is going on between a wikipedia administrator and me on wikipedia articles mentioned on below pages where this reputed and notable ankit fadia is using a very bad language. This is evidence for us and all emails about his comments are saved in my inbox. These nominated indian administrators of wikipedia are also equally responsible for spoiling wikipedia reputation. Whereas I am trying to save the wikipedia and all others mentioned here in this matter.

    Other then evidence that below links are referred to. I have some hard copies too which I recieved from various sources. These are also very important evidence against him. He has earned crores of rupees in last 7 - 8 years from these activities from indian citizens and threating the country peoples. He is not limited to India, instead hacked several national citizens across globe. Now he has started a course which runs in every reliance web world. I don't know whether it's tie-up with reliance or he is just using reliance services on a payment term. But he has started hacking courses also. Name of the course is AFCEH, as most of you know. So, in short similarly there are several 100's of points which all can be included together which proves that Ankit Fadia is an Ethical Hacker who is unethically hacking my nation's citizen ethics(you, me, everyone). One thing you remember that this will be the first time ever across globe any one is showing the real face behind ankit fadia. This is first part, kindly wait for my second part on the same forum.

    He has spoiled prestigious names by falsely misguiding them. Some of them are:

    1) Stanford University
    2) President of India
    3) Amazon
    4) Wikipedia
    5) Rediff.com
    6) Similarly many other media agencies by giving them incorrect information that he is digital intelligence personnel.

    In short, you are also part of public and I am trying to do something for you. So Kindly please follow as much as you can from the below links below and give your suggestion and opinion on them:

    http://www.gather.com/viewArticles.jsp?grpId=3659174697243857&nav=Groupspace

    http://www.gather.com/viewArticles.jsp?memberId=121822&nav=Namespace

    http://www.gather.com/viewArticles.jsp?memberId=155782&nav=Namespace

    My Protest Website against Ankit Fadia: http://afceh.gather.com

    Googled Reference Sources:

    1. http://www.go4expert.com/showthread.php?t=2224

    2. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/101014/hacking_a_fullstop_on_esystem.html?page=3

    3. http://www.himtimes.com/full_news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1166359894&archive=

    4. http://knowyourbroker.blogspot.com/2006/08/online-trading-safety-debate-heats-up.html

    5. http://www.traderji.com/general-chit-chat/7564-kalpesh-indiatv.html

    6. http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Internet_Vs._Traditional_Banks-106678-1.html

    7. May also search keyword 'Kalpesh Sharma' in google to know more references.
     
  2. coderzone

    coderzone Super Moderator

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    I dont get your point. Are you sad that he is making money or you are jealous that he is famous. Even there are lots of ifs and buts about MS something similar and the main reason behind that is the amount of money it makes. Google also have a similar reputation and what you are doing is making him more like that.
     
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    Dear (I don't have your introduction),

    I think you are right to some extent, but again I thought that I should yet clarify this topic through a discussion with you. No doubt that I am in same field, but it does not prove that a person from same field if tries to put the truth about any fact behind any matter or person concerned then always the reason behind that is 'Jealousy'. Here the question is that a large number of peoples are affected due to ankit fadia's activities.

    I know ankit fadia from last seven or more years when I first met him in nirma university at ahmedabad. It was a period when we both were on a primary stage as far as it concerns to information security field. I then continued with my research, because I was financially sound and it was not a very urgent requirement for me to earn money without going through a deep research and gaining more experience. But ankit fadia started with earning by using targeting media to accomplish his goals. From the time period in last seven years not even a single evidence or proof you may mark that I have ever used or come out against ankit fadia in this manner. I have recently started this protest in just last 15-20 days. Where as if you google the keyword 'ankit fadia' and go through the first thirty - fourty searches, you may find that what various peoples from various cities in India and across globe have been facing the troubles as concerns to the matter about ankit fadia. So here the question is not about why he is making money. Let me clear this by saying that I will make money and earn reputation by claiming for my achievements. There is difference in claiming achievements and publicity(cheap thing). There is nothing wrong in that and this is what google and ms does. Their reputation cannot be compared at all, with ankit fadia.

    For example let us take a person who files nomination for award. When any person files nomination for any award he has to mention his achievements and self praise about his work. This is not called self promotion or publicity. It's a part of honor which the person gets when he is a part of real expertise. What is real expertise has been explained in one of my article titled as Hacker and Expert - A Difference.

    http://www.go4expert.com/showthread.php?t=2224

    As far as it concerns to ankit fadia, I would like to tell you that I have created five articles in my account http://shriganesh.gather.com and http://hacking.gather.com. I started with my first article titled 'A Fullstop on E-system: Hacking Awareness Announcement'. As mentioned above by me, till the period of this article in last seven years I never said even a single word about or against ankit fadia. I never went through his life career of what he is doing or what he earns. But in this article he blasted like a mad dog against me. This is the URL and comments(very bad language used) he gave without any reason against me

    Reference: http://groups.google.co.in/group/lu...84624/8464b51067aeafed?hl=en#8464b51067aeafed

    Comment: KALPESH SHARMA IS A GAY QUEER HOMOSEXUAL DEVIANT YOU SHOULD BE
    EXTERMINATED FROM THE EARTH I HOPE THAT ANY EMPLOYERS YOU HAVE SEARCH
    GOOGLE AND FIND OUT ABOUT THE DEVIANT ACTIVITIES THAT YOU DO WITH GOATS
    AND OTHER ANIMALS

    In the this article there was nothing about ankit fadia for what he does and why he does. Let me ask you that according to you will you say anything about any person with whom you don't have anything to do with. Why unnecessarily such words were commented. Further Ankit Fadia and two Wikipedia Administrators started blasting against me and matter slowly and gradually reached upto this level which is right now in front of us.

    I hope that I tried my best to give most appropriate answer for your query. Always be in touch. Can you provide me you introduction too. It's my pleasure to have you here and talk to you.

    Kalpesh Sharma
     
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    I would put it that he was learning by experince and you by studying and there is nothing wrong in that point.

    If he has done something what you have started for 15 days then I dont see any difference the 2 of you guys.

    That should be his personal choice of how he wants himseld to be shaping.

    But I dont see anything like that and infact the post on google group is by you only. I may be wrong also.
     
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    I am by no means support Ankit but I also dont support something like what you have done and I think go4expert.com also should look into the issue of personal fight being not supported here.
     
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    I accept this sentence given by you:

    If he has done something what you have started for 15 days then I dont see any difference the 2 of you guys.

    There has to be some difference between me and ankit fadia. If I also do similar to what he has commented for me. Then it can be said that I am wrong or involved in similar activity as ankit. Thnx for your suggestion. But here one thing I want to ask you is that what shall be done in such a case if some one spoils the reputation of others. Here again there are two things:

    One can be said that 'Intentionally doing such activities'

    Second can be said that 'It's a self defence'

    In my case don't you think that I am doing self defence to save my reputation. For example - If some one come and say you that 'he wants to kill you' ? What option will you choose from below two:

    1) Come and Kill me !
    2) Self Defence !


    Pl. don't take any word negatively, I am trying to give proper explanations with an intention to avoid confusions.

    Secondly, you specified that

    I would put it that he was learning by experince and you by studying and there is nothing wrong in that point.

    I am not agreed to this. I kindly request you that if you go through some forums, groups, or personally meet peoples who have experience of threats by ankit. It proves that he has nothing gained called expertise. At several occassions he was unable to prove and answer to many peoples of what he again and again self claims that learn ethical hacking and join ankit fadia courses, seminars, and workshops. Why should peoples waste time and their hard earned money in any seminar or workshop or course or certification of any person who does not have any speciallity for which he claims. If I talk of myself also, no one should join me also if I don't have the ability to prove what I say ? I believe in what is proved with evidence and right in front of experts and through debates, etc. So, in short the answer to your comment is that, if ankit fadia has learn't or have achieved some expertise from experience then he should proudly prove that wherever it concerns that he tries to earn money from what he claims. My policy is always one that I don't I don't pretend to show what I don't know. In all my comments, articles or any material you find on internet which proves this I will debate and if it's my mistake somewhere I will accept. Here the case is simple that he is not an expert or have any expert level talent as far as it concerns to information security field. Whatever published in his books is also a part of plagiarism ? Which indirectly also proves that he is giving misleading information to reputed publishers and media and also to general public in all his seminars and workshops.

    Thirdly you specified that

    That should be his personal choice of how he wants himseld to be shaping.

    I would like to say here that no doubt how anyone wants himself to be recognized by others is a matter of personal choice. But if it gives wrong guidance and misleading information to unknown peoples then it is very bad. I will also tell you why. Specially students are the examples who are new to technical field. When students comes in technical field in their first stage, they are most probably unaware of fact and are totally confused that which path to move on. In such case they believe to trust the reliable sources. When ankit fadia misrepresents his AFCEH courses and seminars in front of geneal public which includes students also, you think yourself and get a survey how bad it is or whether it's good. Our nation's and any any nation's young peoples are the part of development for their nations and they make career. If such a misguidance occurs due to the matter of personal choice of representation then it's shamefull and nothing else. Then it is no more an issue of personal choice. Many students comes from rural areas who are very poor and cannot afford paying continously for education. Such peoples are misguided due to such personal choice of representation by peoples like ankit fadia. Now think of it that in which way is our nation moving - towards progress or towards abuse for personal benefits. It's not a small issue ! this is what I am trying to explain from my current posting.

    Fourth you specified that

    But I dont see anything like that and infact the post on google group is by you only. I may be wrong also.

    I have removed the article from my gather.com account now. And posted a new one after this useless comment. When an article is deleted then all comments with them are also deleted in gather.com. However, this topic has been reviewed by many members at google group and also replied back with comments like:

    Dear Kalpesh,

    It's really a matter of concern that AF is doing this to your honest
    efforts to make people aware of the security holes in the internet.


    I sincerely condemn such behavior in public forum. Grow up, Mr Fadia
    !!!


    Sandy.

    They had replied immediately after looking into the matter posted by me on their google group. You may further confirm it over there with some member if you think that I am lying. I am a professional person from a genuine, standard and reputed family; I never blame anyone without any points behind fact. So, kindly trust me ! I am saying the truth. Check gather.com and search for 'Kalpesh Sharma' or 'Ankit Fadia' in gather search box. You will find the fact that yet these comments are continuing by a wiki admin and ankit fadia. This is also being done because I am trying to expose their truth in between public.

    Thnx for overall communication and time spent for this discussion.
     
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    Hi, This is not a personal fight issue. This is an issue of the whole community who is involved in 'IT' sector. It affects everyone from various points of view. And first of all primary things is that One should never worry of, " if he is confident that what he is doing is correct and good. One which affects and makes difference to lives of millions is not a matter of personal fight ".

    However, public in general is the real one to decide as what is that particular person's opinion on overall matter. There is always a difference of opinion in every individual's thoughts.

    I will not create any such situation. But will request go4expert.com that let peoples give their opinion and suggestions and also discuss on complete matter. Because every one has been given rights across the globe to speak, protest and suggest.
     
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    I totally agree with you but my point is say someone comes to kill your wife then you will not or rather should not go for killing his wife but save your one. So I think you should be directly opposing to his comment on the places where he has comments and not on remote places. I am not an expert on this but just an option.


    I meant here is how and what he has learnt.

    I dont see any evidence of such from the links you specified. Let us have a link to such thing if you dont mind.
     
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    I guess its not the case of personal fight but the difference in opinion of each other and there is nothing wrong till it does not go to abusing languages. As you said about MS and google there can be people who supports MS as well as some against discussing here.
     
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    I think this topic will go long enough if we talk on each one of them here. Like as it happened on Google Group. You have mentioned above that let's not make the same situation here too. So, instead of going for the links, and discussing here may not be good enough. Though if you think it should be then let me know i will get back to you with some of them.
     
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    I guess you can post couple of links to satisfy cz(coderzone)
     
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    Ok ! here is the links about him. Listen it from mouth of others so that you can trust not only to me but waht everyone says. Then I will post many many emails also in same section with header files which are evidence in itself about fact behind this Ankit Fadia.

    Source1) - http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-September/009654.html

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    Ankit Fadia ************ is torn apart in this one.

    Follow it carefully.


    At
    http://cio-asia.com/pcio.nsf/unidlookup/B5E62AA5355B2B8A48256D950026D468?OpenDocument

    Ankit Fadia says "Asian CIOs need to be more attentive
    to the threat of corporate espionage, he cautions.
    Cont.....

    Source2) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ankit_Fadia

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    [edit] Looks like Self Promotion This article reads more like a CV rather than a wiki article. :( Is this self promotion or what???

    [edit]Age According to this, Fadia is 22 as of 2006, so I just plain took it out until somebody can fill in the exact date. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

    Cont.....

    Source3) - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cu...omer-reviews.sort_by=-SubmissionDate&n=283155

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    1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:Not as 1337 as it seems, August 28, 2006 Reviewer: James R. Mcpherson - See all my reviews

    I bought this book thinking that I might learn something new about how to protect my computer. After reading the first little bit I realized I already knew all of it because it was all already on the internet. Pretty much this guy got all of the (basic) tutorials for hacking on the internet and compiled them into a book. Also, almost nothing in this book will work if you have minor network security. All the people that gave this a 5 star rating are not very smart. They are impressed because some tough 1337 hacker told them how to crack into systems wreck havoc. Yeah, right. Save the money and read tutorials on the internet. Do not buy.

    Comment | Was this review helpful to you? (Report this)


    Cont…..

    Source4) - An Email I recieved from a victim of Ankit Fadia Certified Ethical Hacking (Alongwith header file for evidence)

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    X-Apparently-To: shrishanidev@yahoo.co.invia 202.43.219.170; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:00:13 +0530
    X-Originating-IP: [66.249.82.239]
    Authentication-Results: mta136.mail.in.yahoo.com from=gmail.com; domainkeys=pass (ok)
    Received: from 66.249.82.239 (EHLO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.239)
    by mta136.mail.in.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 11:00:13 +0530
    Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i26so92296wxd
    for <shrishanidev@yahoo.co.in>; Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:30:12 -0800 (PST)
    DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws;
    s=beta; d=gmail.com;
    h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition;
    b=mn/Er7PAYdZKA7FJZGDBR8ejNGI5zgycfZowpGAUo+14kZu/RgZe+PqjX4omQ/KfaGAif3vZEbBOsyy21NGRSEELZTCZaHFvw5Iw8TN047InxaLsZLUe6ET1wI67tQrwwbf11w+HqrCYF6Ys9ZXfmoIFO/STHJkxkY1jM8FwOiM=
    Received: by 10.70.75.14 with SMTP id x14mr629755wxa.1165383011986;
    Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:30:11 -0800 (PST)
    Received: by 10.70.133.1 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:30:11 -0800 (PST)
    Message-ID: <e6d5828d0612052130q2803e7b3jab8e96f334efb65f@mail.gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:00:11 +0530
    From: "Gaurang Parmar" <gaurang70@gmail.com>
    To: shrishanidev@yahoo.co.in
    Subject: Want to Know About CEH.
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Content-Disposition: inlineHello,Once i have sended the mail and u have replied me and asked more about
    me. thanx for urkind eply. Now a days where r u living??.I m S/W engg. doing a job in small software company @ ahmedabad and
    living at Isanpur,Ahmedabad i think u know this place.today i m asking about CEH. it is really a good course to do and have
    a good oppertunity to have security expert jobs.Before some day i have registerd for the Ankit Fadia's CEH at reliance
    web world and i don't think it is really good content and they only
    shows the pre captured ankit's video. only two times we have a video
    conference with ankit.May i know what should be good kills should one have to become a hacker.
    i found u have not hacking other things then bank esystems means
    checking the system.pls tell me more about CEH and how to become CEH from where should i
    do CEH in ahmedabad on is it possible to have a online education.Gaurang Parmar
    99256 17034

    Source5) - http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976859028

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    An out of society & non-standard category in very bad language. Comment on one of my article without any sufficient reasons which is posted on Gather.com

    Source6) - http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2003/Aug/0298.html

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    Re: Ankit Fadia bullshit?

    This message: [ Message body ] [ More options]
    Related messages: [ Next message ] [ Previous message ] [ In reply to ] [ Next in thread]
    <address class="headers">From: Cutthroat Truth <cutthroat_truth_at_yahoo.co.uk>
    Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:40:41 +0100 (BST)
    </address> Screw that racist remarkAnkit Fadia's website's all web files were deletedSherlock Homes of cyberworld, and self-claimed FBI
    Consultant and Self-claimed CIA consultant and
    self-claimed ethical hacker got hacked himselfwhat a shame

    Cont.....

    Source7) - http://groups.google.com/group/lug-...lnk=gst&q=ankit+fadia&rnum=2#d91fb4f3d1185868

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    Ankit Fadia : The real picture

    From: Prabhat ShandeliyaDear All,Yesterday (03-04-2006)I attended a seminar by a so-called "Hacking Guru"
    Ankit Fadia, at DAVV, Indore (MP) auditorium. I just want to share my
    feelings with you.The Seminar was a complete failure, though it was attended by about well
    over 100 people, but was a complete disaster.The very first thing by which I was offended badly was using the sacred word
    "Hacking" to demonstrate something we, the hackers, call cracking. The
    seminar topic was "Ethical Hacking", now I want to ask Mr Fadia, what is
    unethical about hacking ? Hacking is very positive word and there in no need
    to put "Ethical" before it. By the way his seminar topic should be "Ethical
    Cracking".If you really want to become a hacker, please read an article by a real
    hacker, Eric Steven Raymond (ESR). The man who changed the history by
    writing a paper "Cathedral and Bazaar". please read the article here :
    http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.htmlThe people who can not differentiate between hacking and cracking, should
    read an article by the GOD of hackers Richad M Stallman (RMS), the man who
    started GNU movement all by himself. The gcc (compiler), gdb (debugger),
    emacs (editor) are some of the most popular softwares in the world written
    by him. Please read the article here :
    http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_69.htmlThe things Fadia demonstrated were ancient techniques used by crackers to
    break into some one's machine. Now a days even 10 year olds can download
    these tools from Internet to control others' machines. Can we call them
    hackers ?? If he calls it hacking, I doubt if he understands the term even
    "Cracking", leave hacking altogether. This childish behavior is called
    script kiddie.IP spoofing, SQL Injection, password cracking softwares, Trojan horse
    programs, these are the tools of cyber criminals. So I wonder what is the
    significance of the term "Ethical" here ??In the entire session I kept waiting for some program or utility, written by
    himself. But I don't thing he had something like this to share with
    audience. The entire session was demonstration of third party utilities, and
    the saddest thing was no mention of the name of any author of any utility.
    He didn't care to give some credits to the utility developers. What a shame
    !!!.....
     
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    source 1
    The links does not open or at least I could not.

    source 2
    Nothing wrong in putting such a page on wiki unless it does not point something directly to you.

    source 3
    There are lots of -ve reviews about his book and nothing wrong in that as far as I see it.

    source 4
    Emails I dont trust as above I did not find anything of such nature.

    source 5
    Its all your article and nothing more on this I would like to comment.

    source 6
    Nothing against you again

    source 7
    Nothing against you again.

    So how do you think what you are doing is legal and he has done is illegal. What he has done in ethical hacking is has failed on hacking but that does not give you licence to use the words you have used in the previous posts.

    Admin I have gone through all the links and it looks like the other way round.
     
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    I also visited the links kalpesh but could not find anything that sounds like he has went on to a programme against you and the language you have used is not acceptable in the forum. It has been edited by me to keep the norms of the forum.
     
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    The situation is similar to following on google group:

    http://groups.google.com/group/lug-indore/browse_frm/thread/f3547d0592e84624

    The moderator told me and I replied:

    Dear Kalpesh,

    It's really good to see you come in front to oppose AF, for all his
    unethical practices in public. We at Lug-Indore support your efforts to
    stop him at once. I personally edit wikipedia page today and put your
    link there.


    My only concern is - "One should not become evil, while stopping evils
    " . I hope you will take care of this thing.


    Sandy.


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    Hello Everyone,

    Glad to meet you all he members. It's my pleasure to hear something
    which is similar to what I think. I recieved many emails in this
    concern to use good language. Here, I would like to say that I am a
    person from a good society and standard family. Even I never prefer to
    use language which ankit fadia uses. But, I would like to request you
    to please check the matter posted again. I have used only good
    language. The part where bad language has been used is the mentioned
    with source URL of site where such content was found. I have just
    copied it for public view to show them that what now a days peoples
    think and post on various websites about ankit if searched on various
    places in google.


    I hope you all will go through it again carefully !


    Thanking you all for your kind support.


    Kalpesh Sharma

    Same Situation Occured where two Wiki Admin asked about my expertise. See all my comments where you will get answer to all your questions :

    http://kalpeshsharma.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/wikipedia-administrators-ankit-fadias-relatives

    Hope you will be satisfied that I am not wrong or not trying to wrong except what is to be done national interest.

    Sincerely


    Kalpesh Sharma
     
  16. Hacking Expert

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    I already mentioned in above comments that it's not a matter of whether ankit fadia has gone against me or whether ankit fadia is having more publicity then me. It's the question of how many number of peoples are affected, it's the question of national development, it's the questions of students misguided from their career path through ankit fadia courses in a positive manner.

    If ankit fadia courses were really having good contents then one would not have sent me such email as mentioned above. This directly specifies clearly that what will the career of one if he joins ankit fadia's courses. Secondly, it's not cheap too. What about those who are getting misguided and then joins such courses immediately, many from rural areas and poor families are affected. One time payment of 6000 is a big thing for them. I have seen peoples do not time to time get two time food where only chapati and chutney is required. When chapati and chutney is not there, and they think that let's join AFCEH, thenafter when the time comes they realize the fact that it was useless.

    Do you both think it's good ? What the hell publicity will do. Don't we all have to contribute atleast messages to public to be aware if we can't contibute financially. This contribution of awareness is moe valuable then financial contribution for nation.

    Secondly, If ankit fadia does not threats me but others, then do you mean to say ! Let him do ? What's our responsibility ! Why again some one say that Indians do not have unity ? Why to happen create this situation.
     
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    In just last 10 days without any books, any seminars, any fraud courses, or any thing below is the situation. Follow link:

    http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Kalpesh+Sharma&word2=Ankit+Fadia

    Tell any one near ankit fadia that this is called expertise and not “ankit fraud certified ethical hacking (AFCEH) “. If I wanted publicity, I could have started against microsoft and many other corporate companies, not this cheap person who is cheating his nationals.
     
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    I have not seen anywhere what you have mentioned in your post here
     
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    Thnx shabbir for discussing this here. I have been campaigning this protest across every nation, every citizen of every nation. I don't sleep day and night behind fighting against daya and night. May be possible that due to so much overload I might not be able to post the same thing every where. This is the reason there may many varying changes in various posts.

    I hope you can understand that it's not possible for me to keep a watch on every post. But one thing I want to clarify here is that Millions of peoples are gtting this message and lots of joining me. This is a truth ! so if it's not clearly mentioned every where then it may be understood. Public is great to understand what is wrong and right. Isn't it ?

    Kalpesh Sharma
     
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    Thats an excuse of what you have posted and could not stand by it. If you are not sure of what you have been posting then you should be a bit more careful in saying such things against some body. Let that person be anybody.

    Arent you misguiding them by saying that x person has been telling something about me with out any proof. I am sorry if this hurts but that seems to be true.
     

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