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Originally Posted by coderzone
I would put it that he was learning by experince and you by studying and there is nothing wrong in that point.

If he has done something what you have started for 15 days then I dont see any difference the 2 of you guys.

That should be his personal choice of how he wants himseld to be shaping.

But I dont see anything like that and infact the post on google group is by you only. I may be wrong also.
I accept this sentence given by you:

If he has done something what you have started for 15 days then I dont see any difference the 2 of you guys.

There has to be some difference between me and ankit fadia. If I also do similar to what he has commented for me. Then it can be said that I am wrong or involved in similar activity as ankit. Thnx for your suggestion. But here one thing I want to ask you is that what shall be done in such a case if some one spoils the reputation of others. Here again there are two things:

One can be said that 'Intentionally doing such activities'

Second can be said that 'It's a self defence'

In my case don't you think that I am doing self defence to save my reputation. For example - If some one come and say you that 'he wants to kill you' ? What option will you choose from below two:

1) Come and Kill me !
2) Self Defence !


Pl. don't take any word negatively, I am trying to give proper explanations with an intention to avoid confusions.

Secondly, you specified that

I would put it that he was learning by experince and you by studying and there is nothing wrong in that point.

I am not agreed to this. I kindly request you that if you go through some forums, groups, or personally meet peoples who have experience of threats by ankit. It proves that he has nothing gained called expertise. At several occassions he was unable to prove and answer to many peoples of what he again and again self claims that learn ethical hacking and join ankit fadia courses, seminars, and workshops. Why should peoples waste time and their hard earned money in any seminar or workshop or course or certification of any person who does not have any speciallity for which he claims. If I talk of myself also, no one should join me also if I don't have the ability to prove what I say ? I believe in what is proved with evidence and right in front of experts and through debates, etc. So, in short the answer to your comment is that, if ankit fadia has learn't or have achieved some expertise from experience then he should proudly prove that wherever it concerns that he tries to earn money from what he claims. My policy is always one that I don't I don't pretend to show what I don't know. In all my comments, articles or any material you find on internet which proves this I will debate and if it's my mistake somewhere I will accept. Here the case is simple that he is not an expert or have any expert level talent as far as it concerns to information security field. Whatever published in his books is also a part of plagiarism ? Which indirectly also proves that he is giving misleading information to reputed publishers and media and also to general public in all his seminars and workshops.

Thirdly you specified that

That should be his personal choice of how he wants himseld to be shaping.

I would like to say here that no doubt how anyone wants himself to be recognized by others is a matter of personal choice. But if it gives wrong guidance and misleading information to unknown peoples then it is very bad. I will also tell you why. Specially students are the examples who are new to technical field. When students comes in technical field in their first stage, they are most probably unaware of fact and are totally confused that which path to move on. In such case they believe to trust the reliable sources. When ankit fadia misrepresents his AFCEH courses and seminars in front of geneal public which includes students also, you think yourself and get a survey how bad it is or whether it's good. Our nation's and any any nation's young peoples are the part of development for their nations and they make career. If such a misguidance occurs due to the matter of personal choice of representation then it's shamefull and nothing else. Then it is no more an issue of personal choice. Many students comes from rural areas who are very poor and cannot afford paying continously for education. Such peoples are misguided due to such personal choice of representation by peoples like ankit fadia. Now think of it that in which way is our nation moving - towards progress or towards abuse for personal benefits. It's not a small issue ! this is what I am trying to explain from my current posting.

Fourth you specified that

But I dont see anything like that and infact the post on google group is by you only. I may be wrong also.

I have removed the article from my gather.com account now. And posted a new one after this useless comment. When an article is deleted then all comments with them are also deleted in gather.com. However, this topic has been reviewed by many members at google group and also replied back with comments like:

Dear Kalpesh,

It's really a matter of concern that AF is doing this to your honest
efforts to make people aware of the security holes in the internet.


I sincerely condemn such behavior in public forum. Grow up, Mr Fadia
!!!


Sandy.

They had replied immediately after looking into the matter posted by me on their google group. You may further confirm it over there with some member if you think that I am lying. I am a professional person from a genuine, standard and reputed family; I never blame anyone without any points behind fact. So, kindly trust me ! I am saying the truth. Check gather.com and search for 'Kalpesh Sharma' or 'Ankit Fadia' in gather search box. You will find the fact that yet these comments are continuing by a wiki admin and ankit fadia. This is also being done because I am trying to expose their truth in between public.

Thnx for overall communication and time spent for this discussion.